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@Admin Jesus is the first born over all creation has to do with his physical body. The scripture in Deuteronomy about no form in the fire does not mean God did not have a physical body. We know that God did and does have a physical body, because He walked in the Garden of Eden, and His back side was shown to Moses. Genesis 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. Exodus 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

@Admin Jesus is the Father with a physical body, and Jesus had a body before coming to earth, not a flesh and blood body, but an immortal physical body. God made Himself a body before He made anything. Then He made everything through that body.

I didn’t say that Jesus always existed in the flesh before coming to earth in the flesh. Jesus has now the same glory he had with the Father before he came to earth. Jesus has an immortal body now, and has the same glory he had with God before coming to earth. So that tells us he had that immortal body before coming to earth. John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. John 17:24 "Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world. 1 Corinthians 15:44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 1 Peter 1:21 Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God. 1 Timothy 1:17 Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen. Philippians 3:21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body. This scripture says what we will be has NOT YET BEEN MADE KNOWN, we will be like him... 1 John 3:2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. Jesus is the firstborn over all creation, and then everything was made through him. Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. Colossians 1:16 For in Him all things were created, things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities. All things

It sounds as if we have the exact same beliefs about this. I want to say that I do believe that a spirit can be seen. Maybe that is where we differ? Therefore, it could be seen on the right or left of another. As for God coming to earth as a man and having a flesh body, I’m not sure if you got it that I believe God had a physical body in heaven first too, before coming to earth as a man? I believe God made Himself a body in heaven before making anything, and that His body was the immortal body of Christ, the body Jesus has now, after the resurrection and ascension.

Jesus says when you SEE him, you have SEEN the Father. See John 14:7 If you really know me, you will know my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him." John 14:9 Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? John 12:45 The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. That means when we see Jesus, we can say, "I see the Father." God says Jesus will be called God, Father, and Holy Spirit. So that is what I call Jesus. Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

See Deuteronomy 32:18. You deserted the Rock, who fathered you; you forgot the God who gave you birth. That scripture in Deuteronomy says GOD is the ROCK. The scripture in Corinthians says Jesus is the rock. That means Jesus is GOD the Father. 1 Corinthians 10:4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. The ROCK that FATHERED them was Christ. Jesus says those who overcome he will be their GOD and they will be his CHILDREN. See Revelation 21:7. Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. If we are Jesus' children, then he is our Father.

I would like to share more things to add to what you have written which proves that Jesus is God the Father and the Holy Spirit. We are only given one Spirit when we are saved, but we will have the Father and Jesus living in us. This proves that the Father and Jesus are the same. John 14:23 Jesus replied, "If anyone loves me, he will obey my teaching. My Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him. Jesus is God made visible with a body. Jesus is God the Father come to earth as man. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. God is a consuming fire. Hebrews 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire." That fire in Jesus' eyes is the Spirit of God. Revelation 1:14 The hair on his head was white like wool, as white as snow, and his eyes were like blazing fire. John 10:28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all ; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. 30 I and the Father are one.” Whose hand? They are one and the same. They are one. 'One' means 'same'. John 1:3Through Him all things were made, and without Him nothing was made that has been made. Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: God the Father's hands and Jesus' hands are one and the same. Isaiah 64:8 Yet, O LORD, you are our Father. We are the clay, you are the potter; we are all the work of your hand. JESUS IS THE HOLY SPIRIT The Bible plainly says so. 2 Corinthians 3:17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 2 Corinthians 3:18 And we, who with unveiled faces all reflect the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into His image with intensifying glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.

What you wrote is beautiful truth about the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There are some things that I might not agree with exactly, see what you think. You said, “Now, if God is a Spirit, how did He create man in His image?” I believe that God is an invisible Spirit and created Himself a body, and that body is the body of the immortal Jesus Christ, and then God made everything through Him. You said, “A Spirit does not have an image or shape after all.” I believe that a spirit looks exactly as our physical body, except see through, and that it does have a form. Zechariah 12:1 A prophecy: The word of the LORD concerning Israel. The LORD, who stretches out the heavens, who lays the foundation of the earth, and who forms the human spirit within a person, declares: You said, “Also, a Spirit is dimensionless: we cannot decide which is a Spirit’s “right hand side” or “left hand side” to argue who is seated at his right hand. And a Spirit cannot cast a Shadow (for us to hide under the shadow of his wings).” I believe God’s wings are actually the wings of the Cherubim. Psalm 17:8 Keep me as the apple of the eye; Hide me in the shadow of Your wings Psalm 18: 10 He mounted a winged angel and flew; he glided on the wings of the wind. You said, “Yes, the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the World, long before He created Adam and Eve. God already foreknew that He would be born in this world as Jesus to “save His people from their sins”. And because God had already planned how he would be born into this world, he said “Let us make man in our own image”. I believe that the plan for salvation was made before the creation of anything, but that Jesus was not slain before he was slain. There are some translations that make it more understandable, for instance: American Standard Version And all that dwell on the earth shall worship him, every one whose name hath not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that hath been slain.