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@YourTruthGod Gen 3:8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden." The Bible doesn't say that Adam and Eve walked with the physical body of God. Neither does it say that God walked in His physical body in the garden of Eden. While I understand your frustration in saying that there is no need to learn Hebrew or Greek in order to learn the truth, we must understand that the original Bible was not written in English. Whether it is KJV/NIV/NLT/ESV, they are all translations of the original Hebrew and Greek scriptures. Therefore, there is no harm in referring to the original text to clarify the context of any scripture, and to avoid misinterpreting it. Having said that, the "cool of the day" is actually taken from the original Hebrew word "Ruach" (h7307) meaning "Breeze", "Wind", "Spirit", or "breath". This same word is also used in various other places. For example, Gen 1:2 "And the ruach (Spirit) of God was hovering over the face of the waters." Gen 8:1 "God made a ruach (Wind) to pass over the earth and the water subsided". Also, Adam and Eve only "heard" the voice of the Lord walking in the garden. Gen 3:10 "I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself." So, the term "God walked in the garden in the cool of the day" might refer to His Spirit moving around like a breeze/wind. We find other such analogies in the Scripture: 1. Then the LORD answered Job out of the whirlwind (Job 38:1) 2. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. (Acts 2:2-4) As regarding God's manifestation to Moses, it was a theophany (temporary). We find many such instances like God dining with Abraham, wrestling with Jacob, etc. None of them died because God hid His glory behind a temporary body. For no one could really see God in His glory and live. That's why it is NOT considered a contradiction when the Bible says: 1. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. (John 1:18) 2. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape (John 5:37)

Can you please post the verses which mention that God made Himself a physical body before creating everything else? (Christ being the firstborn of all creation means something else altogether) Deu 4:12 And the Lord spoke to you out of the midst of the fire. You heard the sound of the words, but saw no form; you only heard a voice. John 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. (KJV) John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. (KJV)

"Jesus has an immortal body now, and has the same glory he had with God before coming to earth. So that tells us he had that immortal body before coming to earth." ANSWER: Jesus shared the Father's glory because HE IS THE FATHER manifest in the flesh. However, the flesh didnot exist before His birth. The Bible clearly says that the "Son" (flesh) was made a "seed of David". Also, the Son was "made under the law". He didnot exist physically before that.

Hi, thank you for your response. The Bible doesn't endorse the idea that Jesus had always existed in the flesh. Even though He had always existed in the Spirit, He became flesh ONLY when He was born to Mary in the manger. John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,". When the Bible says that the Word (Lord Jesus) was "made flesh", it naturally implies that the Word was not existing in the flesh prior that. Gal 4:4 "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law," The verse clearly says that Jesus manifested in the flesh only when the fulness of the time came (God's appointed time). Also, He was "made of a woman", and "made under the law", implying the time period after the law was given to Moses. So, even though the plan of Salvation / the Office of Sonship had existed in God's mind before the creation of the world, it was fulfilled only in the New Testament. This is the reason the Lord Jesus is called the "Firstborn of all creation" (Col 1:15) and the "beginning of the creation of God" (Rev 3:14). Note: The physical body of Lord Jesus Christ is not to be confused with His temporary physical manifestations in the Old Testament (Theophany). For more details please check below: https://www.echadministries.com/post/10-the-eternal-son

Hi, thank you for your contribution. 1. "I believe that God is an invisible Spirit and created Himself a body, and that body is the body of the immortal Jesus Christ, and then God made everything through Him." Answer: Exactly. That is what I meant to say. "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us" (John 1:14). Again the Bible says, "Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:" (Heb 10:5). Also, "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:" (Col 1:15). So when God created man in His own image, it was in this image. That's why Jesus said "Whose is this image and superscription? Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's." (Mark 12:16,17) 2. "A Spirit does not have an image or shape after all.” I believe that a spirit looks exactly as our physical body, except see through, and that it does have a form." Answer: Of course a person and his spirit look alike. Acts 12:15 also supports this idea (Peter is confused for his angel). But the context of the sentence "A Spirit does not have an image or shape after all" is that it has no visible form or shape. "And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape." (John 5:37) However, Jesus is the visible image of the invisible God. We read in 1Tim 3:16 "God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels". 3. “Also, a Spirit is dimensionless: we cannot decide which is a Spirit’s “right hand side” or “left hand side” to argue who is seated at his right hand. And a Spirit cannot cast a Shadow (for us to hide under the shadow of his wings).” Answer: Again the context is in the literal interpretation of the word "shadow" and "right hand". We know that God is a Spirit. And whether the wings belong to Him or the Cherubim, it doesn't a literal shadow (being a spirit). When the Bible says "He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High, shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty", it means that the person will be safe, secure and protected. Shadow of the Almighty is a metaphor to a "Place of refuge". Similarly, the intention was to say that the "right hand" of God is also a metaphor indicating His glory and power. 4. I believe that the plan for salvation was made before the creation of anything, but that Jesus was not slain before he was slain. Answer: Exactly. When I said that the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world, it was in the mind/plan of God. It was prophetic. Or else, How can we be predestinated in Him before the foundation of the world? God in His infinite wisdom already knew about mankind's fall, and that He would redeem them by being born as a man (Sonship). However, we must understand that it ACTUALLY happened only in His appointed time, when Jesus was born to Mary. "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law," (Gal 4:4) Jesus was foreordained in God's plan before the foundation of the world, but manifest only later. "Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you," (1Pet 1:20)